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  1. Note to Megs,

    “How was the recession of the late 70′s different than the sub-prime mortgage crash of 2008?”

    The main difference was the 70′s one was caused by a Democratic Administration and the sub-prime mortgage crash was caused by a Democratic congress.

    As someone who voted straight Democrat until I was 56, I watched first hand as a real estate appraiser, how Democrats so interfered in the real estate area of our economy that it imploded as it did. No you say?

    Time for, as we say in the appraisal field, some independently verifiable facts that are a matter of the public record. Let’s call this an honesty test. Will you let the facts speak for themselves or will you conveniently revert to selective logic in order to continue placing blame where after learning the facts you must continue to maintain it’s the fault of rednecks.

    “Burning Down The House: What Caused Our Economic Crisis?”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4

    Use your pause button, it goes fast. Good luck getting honest!

    1. Lies? I’ve never voted Democrat, but I certainly will this time with the weak, pitiful GOP candidates put forth today. I’d like to believe in a Republican savior president that will pull us out of this, and if there were better choices, I just might.

      While I’ve never been a fan of Congress…Republican or Democrat, to say the Democratic Congress was responsible for the sub-prime mortgage crash is to reiterate the twisted truths as told from the talking heads. Freddie and Fannie could not create the housing collapse all by themselves…you do know the same thing happened in Europe, where there was no U.S. congress at all? The push–Ok’d by Bush’s federal reserve, you can’t deny Bush was at the helm and was requested to reign in the Fed’s permissible behavior towards wall street’s bundling of questionable securities, and in which Bush made the fatal decision to not to do it–the powerful push for “innovation in financial products” led to the housing collapse…brokers were given the OK to basically do, in the end, what turned out to be ponze schemes. I’ll admit the housing decline was helped by the democrats, who promoted, Freddi and Fannie with good albeit ignorant intentions–wanting lower middle class to purchase houses. But the way the talking heads put it, Freddie and Frannie were responsible for the whole collapse…That’s hogwash! The Republicans, and the rest of the western world, wanted the “innovative financial products,” and they still want them…and maybe this time they’ll get them right, since the federal reserve actually has the man-power to monitor these things…but the Republicans and Democrats, and specifically Bush at the helm allowed these products to fail us miserably the first time around. Looking at the sub-prime mortgage crash in hindsight, Greenspan placed far more blame on Wall Street for bundling subprime mortgages into securities than he blamed it on Frannie and Freddie.

      To say that Democratic Congress during a few years of Bush’s eight is responsible for sub-prime mortgage crash is a half-truth. Bush is the one who got rid of key positions at the federal reserve (less research available to find out just how these “innovative financial products might” from play out)…the streamlined government I was talking about. And Bush allowed the surplus monies available during his administration to disappear with his insistence on extended tax breaks….not the fiscal conservative we could have hoped for…neither are these GOP candidates.

      From Wikipedia,
      “The One Hundred Tenth United States Congress was the meeting of the legislative branch of the United States federal government, between January 3, 2007, and January 3, 2009, during the last two years of the second term of President George W. Bush. It was composed of the Senate and the House of Representatives. The apportionment of seats in the House was based on the 2000 U.S. census.
      The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995. Although the Democrats held fewer than 50 Senate seats, they had an operational majority because the two independent senators caucused with the Democrats for organizational purposes.”

      So my point, not lies, is Bush held the presidency for eight years, and during that time Bush ignored requests to reign in wall street securities bundles…requested from some in the financial community, and well as from some in Congress (whether they were Republican or Democrat, I can’t remember, but probably Democrat because Republicans are so a mono-culture, they’d hardly oppose the wishes of their incumbent president). He deferred it to his Bush appointed federal reserve crew…as small as he had made them…who in turn had the belief, no, don’t regulate it, it will work itself.

      Call all of this lies if you want. The truth hurts to a lot of you on here. Perhaps because you feel like your party can’t possibly be responsible for what is going on in this country. What a sad state of affairs. Your party is important, but its people like you who weaken it when you stick your head in the sand and won’t see what’s blatant to the majority in America and beyond. The Republican party needs to take some responsibility for their actions and move on. Heck, even when we all had to vote for W. Bush, we were disappointed, but new we didn’t want the “other guy” in. After that experience, I’ll never vote that way again. Moving on would include making this country great again by having the Republican party not vying for re-election by being the party of “no” and extreme criticism, but by showing their cards…How are they going to compete with China? How are they going to lead this country into healing with this polarized 50/50 split? The Native Americans were conquered by dividing and conquering…we’ll be beat by Asia the same way. Division=nothing accomplished. Nothing.

      1. Pleeese….Do you really believe that we buy into your statement that you’ve “never voted Democrat” ? Your little progressive rant has exposed you dear…we’re just not that STUPID..LOL

        1. Janet,

          Megan suffers from Obama syndrome. The inability to speak the truth.

          Wayne Rife

        2. Phil Wynn

          First you criticize for not giving the facts, then you pick on one thing and try to discredit everything else. Besides, who cares if she ever voted Democratic? Are you making a list?

      2. Bill Smit

        Way 2l-long way 2-much babble. Be concise.

      3. People always blame Bush,Bush had no power he was nothing but a puppet with Cheney,Rumsfield and the Republican big business pulling his strings.read his Wikipedia page to see what he screwed up

  2. Crying wolf? There is a Pack of wolves at the door.

  3. Where is the Republican candidates plan for stemming the havoc that social security and medicare/medicaid spending is going to create in our U.S. economy? What is their plan to compete with Asia? What is there plan to handle Iran? How is their healthcare plan different that Obamacare? How are any of their plans significantly different from the current adminstration?

    And don’t answer, “I don’t know.” It’s ridiculous that we don’t know or care. It really is.

    1. Thank you. A logical person, who realizes there are two political parties who just so happen to stand for most all the same things.

    2. Check out the Ryan budget if you want to see a well-thought-out realistic approach stem “…the havoc that social security and medicare/medicaid spending is going to create in our U.S. economy”

      1. Phil Wynn

        Exactly! Let’s give all that money to the job creators, and send Granny to the soup kitchen!

        1. 1patriot

          Phil, you obviously have not read Ryan’s budget plan…….

  4. Megan…funny how you got no reply?!!! Nothing accomplished again!

  5. Isaura Ansoategui

    I forgot to add that I bought it in the USA , they operate from Arizona and i got my delivery in 2 days at no extra cost and saved taxes. Best of all they have live support number where you do not need to hold forever to get someone to talk to you.

    1. What? WTF?

      Wayne Rife

  6. It’s sickening how some people will keep drinking obama’s poison.They have the democrat word branded in their mind which came from their father and his father and his father. Some just don’t realize why stupidity reins in their family. IDIOTS

    1. Phil Wynn

      I think you meant “reigns.” Sorry, I’m such a stupid Democrat I couldn’t help myself.

  7. What’s missing from the list? How about some facts or basis in reality?

    1. George Mason

      Brian – If you are that obtuse to pose such a question given where Obama has taken our country in the last four years, it is doubtful you would grasp the facts if they were to bite you in the leg.

      But in the hopes one fact may help; here it is relative to Mr. Thiessen’s point number 8. In two states, Illinois and Massachusetts, Catholic Charities have closed their adoption services because Obama’s Justice Dept and HHS is forcing the Catholic Church to allow homosexual couples to adopt babies. Now tell me, Brian, is that not a fact based in reality?

      1. Phil Wynn

        Thanks for that, George. Another reality-based fact you might want to consider is that Catholics, and many conservatives, are of course not at all obsessed with sex.

      2. No, it’s not a fact based in reality. There is no assault on religious freedom. There is a balancing of religious freedom and universal human rights. Catholic charities remain 100% FREE to decide whether to offer adoption services, something that is clearly NOT a core element of the religion. If they decide to do so, however, they must not discriminate against homosexuals. In no way does this impair their freedom to practice the Catholic religion. They can still do as many rosaries, pray, take communion, take confessions, and all the other stuff without ANY restriction whatsoever.

  8. Obama is the man.he really cares for the middle class, unlike republicans who only care for the likes of the koch bothers.

    1. tom bo datton

      You’re right Obama will probably be written in the history books as the greatest president ever. Of course that’s only because the government will write, edit, and publish them themselves. Censorship is only one more term away.

    2. Dictators love fools like you.

  9. It’s so funny to see people talk about our president as if he actually makes all the decisions. To see people vote democrat or republican just because they are labeled democrat or republican. In all reality, our current president and those before him are like puppets, with the powers that be above him pulling all the strings. If we as a people don’t like the direction of our country, the only way to truly change it is a massive nation wide protest. And I’m not talking peaceful.

  10. More B.S. from the republicans based on nothing,lets see any of this based of facts,and real facts not made up ones that you pulled out of where the sun don’t shine.

    1. You have it backwards, Bubba. Republicans research the facts before spouting them. Liberals only know how to insult people. They NEVER respond to the facts put before them! I notice you just criticize and offer no facts whatsoever yourself! (Check out George Mason’s comments below for some facts.) I could send you scores of documented facts but, as a Liberal, I know you will just ignore them or rationalize them away. You can put your head back in the sand now.

  11. I believe his gun control agenda will become apparent, and if elected for a second term, his extreme gun control measures will either be enacted through legislation or executive order, but they will be enacted. His will disarm America in violation of the 2nd Amendment.

    1. Phil Wynn

      And if he doesn’t do any of that, you can always claim your brave defense of the 2nd Amendment prevented him!

      1. gone12013

        Or we can vote for the other guy and not worry about it at all.

  12. Notice that when the Libs respond, they always ignore the facts – and always fabricate ideas or
    try to deny the criticism. This shows how bereft of ideas and how desperate they are .
    And who can blame them? The are obsessed with the power and money they get to control.
    They will die before they give up – it is the only place they can go.
    Faithful patriots must be as tenacious as they are.
    God Bless America!

    1. Phil Wynn

      Psychological projection at its classic best.

  13. It’s difficult to understand Americans who support and defend Obama. Especially after witnessing Obama’s offenses against the rule of law(including the adminstrations blantent pursuit of racebased justice) Obama has violated public trust as he uses Chicago style bullyboy tactics to protect and advance adminstration cronies. Also while Obama’s mania for secrecy(although he ran on promise of transparency) is well known..hi cronies as well as he hires private investigators to dig up dirt on his opponents all the while hiding his records from the public. A throughly corrupt and deceitful man sits in our WH. Those who still support him are either very ignorant or they are traitors to their country.

  14. This list is silly and laughable. It’s full of vague generalities with little basis in fact, and the reek of hysteria makes one wonder if the person who wrote it is “all there” in the head. It’s more like irrational paranoia run amuck.

    It would be really to dispute each of the things on the list, but as I just said, why bother? The person who wrote this, and the people who believe it, would rather create and live in fantasies that appeal to their tiny and easily-frightened minds.

    Come on, people, when political writers use words like “irrevocable damage” and “disaster”, they’re dealing in fear-mongering; they’re not interested in having a real discussion. Whether you’re Liberal or Conservative, you really have to be careful when listening to people like this.

    For instance, this guy, and others like him, have a huge stake in making people believe that “ObamaCare” will “destroy” the nation. Really? All ObamaCare does is get everyone into the health insurance pool so that everyone can pay for their own medical care. Which in turn means that the people who resent having to pay for the emergency room visits of the uninsured won’t have to foot those bills any longer. What’s so disastrous about that? It sounds like a good deal to me.

    You also have to remember that a big part of the “ObamaCare disaster” talk is being fueled by the health insurance and medical industries who fear that their profit margins will be reduced under a system that provides care for everyone. So what’s more important, that all Americans get health care, or big industries make more and more in profits? You have to decide, but please, really, people, stop subscribing to this silly and ridiculous fear-mongering. It’s beneath you.

    1. So obamacare is not a bad idea huh? Then why do we have to pass it to see what’s in it?
      I also have two other words for you:

      1) Social Security
      2) Medicare

      But those are working out so well right?

    2. Malabama

      I would love for people to be responsible for there own medical bills.but in Obama care,first of All the pay starts out about 8% then past 15% percent of your paycheck over the next few years.why is it ok to charge more for one persons healthcare just because he makes more money?what if you work overtime?or more than one job?and why should it be up to someone else to tell us what we can eat and how much?and not counting the fact that americans dont go for someone forcing this on us.communism isn’t our strong suit.as for Obama…why does this man incedentally hurt the hard working Americans by taking our god given freedoms like when I was in school when the bell rang we went in the hallway and said the pledge of allegiance while holding up a flag.we were a strong country back then and proud to be Americans.now it’s like he is ashamed to cover his heart and give his praise to our flag.our country was built on not just Christian values but good morals,and he is unworthy.a man that won’t put his hand on a holy bible and raise his hand and swear to honor and serve our country should not deserve to be our president.and this person has spent more time on the reelection campaign more so far than all the presidents since reagan put together is an outrage.mr. Obama,if you would spend that time doing your job talking to congress and plain old americans you may find the right road to follow to drive back to prosperity.I really don’t think Chris rock and George clooney is going to give you very much inside info on what normal people need to support our families.let’s run this up the chain and see what happens.

    3. amok*

    4. katherina

      bite me !

    5. brando are blind or are you just ignorant and stupid we are in a record high debt it has increased. there is no jobs. prices on everything is skyrocketing……how that hell do you not see it in front of your face oh wait…….your either a highschool kid living with parents with no job and hasn’t tried looking for one to know how hard it is…..2. your have a high ass paying job and got so much money you don’t know what to do with it so you don’t give a shit about the rest of the counrty being poor and in living in poverty…or 3 your one of those people that just voted and continue to vote for obama cause you think everyone else is racist and we need a black president which is supposedly black his name doesn’t spell arab or muslim at all………..yeah right….i don’t give a shit what color the president is if denzel washington ran i would vote for him not because he is black but anybody os better than obama….the country is dying in depression…..but you’re too ignorant and living it up with your own status to see whats happening in the world….but i’ll tell you what i’m am willing to bet anything that another 4 years of obama’s ass we reach near 3rd world poverty cause we are half way there. its like tasting something gross if you didn’t like it or its bad for you why the hell would you keep eating it……and thats what you are doing cause as far as i’m concerned romney has actually faced the people’s question and gave them straight answers. all i here from obama’s mouth is empty good sounding B.S.!!!!

    6. Jay Ack

      brando just because you throw in a few fancy words doesnt mean you became a quantum physics professor at harvard buddy. second of all your missing the point. IF SOMEONE CANT AFFORD TO PAY 150.00 for a UA you think they can afford to pay 150 every month if not more for insurance that does not entirely cover everything? Im a per diem nurse and sure i used to get PAID great when the per diem rate went up by the union. but guess what, i had to spend it all on medical bills and still pay a huge load of tax money that people who come in through the tides get welfare foodstamps and insurance all just because they decided to pop a couple of babies in this state?! go get your facts straight and open your eyes before you criticize someones opinion. and if you ever listen to public debates they always talk about how many things will go crashing down if obama gets re elected.

    7. RoseOfMe

      Brando…you, and others like you, had better WAKE UP before you help and inspire more to just close your eyes to what could happen to the USA if Owebama remains. Have you not heard that those who can’t afford health insurance will be penalized…in the thousands, if they don’t take insurance? It’s a DISASTER waiting to happen…not to mention there are already Drs. who are NOT accepting new Medicare patients…because of cuts and costs. That’s ALREADY a disaster. There has NEVER been a president like this one…who cut America down immediately by apologizing for it. He doesn’t speak for Americans and NEVER will. We haven’t HAD a President these past years as far as I’m concerned.

  15. rapper ti

    Gun controlled and depopulation terms also the rfid micro chips

    1. redpens

      I’ll never submit to a chip. No way no how. No one should

      1. tom bo datton

        Not much choice when you’re in an internment camp.

  16. buffdawg

    easy…we will become Greece, and there will be a civil war. Liberals will NOT take our guns and stamp on the US Constitution without conflict.

  17. (Credit: CBS) (CBS News) The National Debt has now increased more during President Obama’s three years and two months in office than it did during 8 years of the George W. Bush presidency.

    The Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office.

  18. Love what you guys are doing, keep it up.

    Todd
    TheConservativeBook.com

  19. katherina

    what a shame for this country!

  20. THE TRUTH

    PLEASE LET THAT MAN BE IN PEACE HE CAME IN OFFICE WHEN BUSH MESSED IT UP ITS GONNA TAKE TIME FOR HIM TO GET EVERYTHING BACK RIGHT THAT BUSH MESSED UP I DONT EVER HEAR YALL COMPLAINING ABOUT WHAT BUSH MESSED UP

    1. You have a disease who ever you are. You need to go to the nearest E.R. and ask the doctor if they have medication for your disease. If they don’t– ask for a cranialectomy.

  21. It blows my mind ppl still want him to win!!!! He did NOTHING that has helped this country rebound. Still spending, still raising debt limits, and still going over the top w free programs. Democrats are the ones to blame.

  22. I too am amazed that this election is even close. For the first time in 64 years I am genuinely concerned about whether the country that has given me so much will survive. Never before have I seen so much demagoguery, blatant thuggery, and distortion of truth. I would submit that, should this current regime win the election, we will see a bloodbath in this country that will rival Syria’s. The ideologies represented are polar opposites and the implementation of the progressive agenda is too well entrenched to think that anything will be resolved peacefully in light of their tactics.

    1. Mark OBrien

      This is not your Daddy’s Democratic Party. The Democrats are so left, have become so perverted in their beliefs, that I am genuinely concerned that America can ever recover from the disaster of the last four years. Our Colleges have become breeding grounds for a distorted liberal agenda. Ronald Reagan conservatives like myself run the risk of being called, racists and homophobes, for having an opinion which differs from the left on issues such as immigration and gay marriage. There is no more 1st ammendment for those who oppose the majority! The Democrats have abandones the John Kennedy priciples which defined the party. America RIP 1776 – 2012!

  23. I’m always amused to see how many people who are opposed to O’s reelection are nostalgic for predecessors who also did their bit to erode representative gov’t. I’m as unhappy with the Republicans and Conservatives as I am w/ the Dems. And.. can not support Romney.
    I hope that an O second term might wake up enough of us to make it possible to go back to our founding principles.
    We’re a nation of delusional drunks who need to hit bottom.

    1. so your telling every anti obaman that you hope obama wakes up and gets off his ass and gets a second chance with a second term are you out of your mindhe had one chance 4 whole years of chance he ruined it and needs to quit blaming bush he had plenty of time and made things worse…..bottom line rocco get realistic we can’t afford optimism from people like you you must be blind or something cause obviously you have no clue about the current disastrious economy people are experiencing.

      1. No Anna, I guess I didn’t make myself clear.
        I hope that a second Obama term ( which I think is inevitable…hope I’m wrong) wakes up his supporters and the folks on the sidelines. and wakes them up sufficiently so they are amenable to a realignment with constitutional principles.
        I think unless we do that we are constantly in danger of a popular leader doing great damage to the country.

        1. ok now you make sense cause it wasn’t clear and i hope we get romney and paul ryan in they apparently are interested and give a shit about our debt and budget and sorry to say obama had plenty of time and didn’t do anything yet he took lavish trips around the world often….we need a president thats going to address issues instead of making excuses and using nothing but technical babble. michelle and obama don’t give a shit about the flag she said it her self its too much for them to properly run a country “all this for a damn flag?” is what she said and obama agreed look it up on youtube and type in the quote you’ll see it.

  24. Obamacare will bankrupt the USA.

  25. I think maybe you are all out of your minds with faux news and msdnc brainwashing. They are all in it for themselves, get elected and start working to get re-elected, lies upon lies, playing on whatever tickles you. Has anyone on here ever watch politicians pander to what ever state they are campaigning in, do you think there is maybe a reason why republicans always promise to solve all of our fiscal problems so we elect them and they spend spend spend. They held congress in 6 out of the eight years of bushes presidency, why are we all not living in utopia? Why does Medicare and social security even exist? In fact why did he add the largest medicare expansion (part D) since it was established? If you think a Rep or Dem is going to save or destroy anything you need to go back on your meds. Its all been a progression that started in 1776. What do you think Thomas Jefferson would say about the republican party in 2012? The best you can do is Mitt Romney? Really? He believes in magic underwear and women are second class citizens (Mormon..look it up). Land of the free? I think not. We are all guilty of intolerance.

    1. Ron you blind ignoramous it doesn’t matter i don’t side with republican or democrat and just vote on that which clearly some people vote on with that base alone if a democrat has a good plan for the americans and is on good standing morals and values compared to the republican candidate i will vote for them and vice versa people need to start voting on what is best not blue or dem or rep many votes are wasted on ignorance and blind voting values and reasoning…..you vote for whats going to keep our country going and prosper obama has not done that if that was the case the debt would have fell and more jobs would have arose leaving only really poor people and social security recipients receiving welfare but people who had lives and stability have lost all they have worked for by being layed off and companies moving from them and downsizing in employees…..bottom line romney and ryan have done more work in their campaign researching and finding solutions to our nations depression….what has obama done besides raise debt allow nearly 1 million illegals in our country for more job taking from real americans and bullshit votes. oh and lets not forget taking a 716 billion cut out of medicare that people worked their asses off for and paid into so that when they retire they would have it and put that into obamacare……..if he gets reelected i hope you become jobless even homeless so that you can’t pay for obamacare and get sick and go to jail or prison cause you couldn’t pay for your hospital bill and while your in that cell you can think about how you betrayed your country by getting him reelected along with the rest of your ingorant cell mates and maybe next time you will not blindly vote for random horse shit and vote for what is best no matter what the party and learn your lesson you will get a taste of your own medicine and eat that shit worth of words you spout to people on this forum that want whats best for us when you could care less if our nation falls you selfish traitor!

      1. Hi Anna, Thanks for seeing it my way, I knew there were people on here with common sense and my point was not wasted on everyone.

        P.S. See I can live in a fantasy world

        large debt? The Reps took control of everything when we had a surplus, gave us all a tax break, wars broke out and put us back in the red, during the whole thing Bush and Cheney are screaming from the rooftops “dont worry, deficits dont matter”. The party of fiscal responsibility was on the ball there weren’t they? Thanks for that by the way. Yes Bush and the Reps added almost 5t$ to the debt in 8yrs and Obama has done that in 4 but the policy’s and programs dont change just because the president does, there were necessary bailouts that were done by Bush and Obama and a large amount of revenue that no longer exists due to bad policy and greed by both parties, You cant possibly think any of the people that are elected by a minority of extremists (because most dont vote for their congressman) have your or my best interest at heart. Lets make a prediction, Romney gets elected, nothing significant happens except for maybe some more religiously fueled wars and the cutting of major programs that were put in place to solve serious problems with poverty and lack of care for our oldest of citizens and Romney spends the next 4-8 years blaming obama for all the wrongs that havnt been righted under his administration, if your not following my point then maybe this will help, Its all garbage to get your vote, even if Obama agreed with all the things Romney wanted to change there would only be other issues to argue about. There has to be a counterpoint. Where is Ronald Reagan’s republican party? Not here, Not today. Its not about real solutions that benefit everyone, its about how much can I distort what the other guy is saying and scare the crap out of the faithful. Ok and more illegals have been deported and more money spent to deport them under Obama in the last three years than any time in history..You should try google its free. 716b from medicare in overpayment to keep the program solvent for another 8yrs while we try and find a better solution or… a voucher program that WILL NOT WORK due to the cost of inflation and rising health care costs, not to mention it will be 10 yrs before you see any savings and 30+yrs before its completely out of the system, by that time I imagine medicare would be back anyway. I agree with privatizations of many things the govt has its hands in but ss, medicare and making everyone responsible for there own heath care are not three of them. These are all things that we will all be subject too as we get older, the fact is we just will not work until we die, not because most are not willing but because companys do not want you too, at some point you will be a liability. I guess a thank you for all the years of hard work but now you need to go somewhere and die is something you want for your children or grandchildren. So you say its there fault, they should have worked harder, saved more, but who do you think was serving you at your favorite restaurant all these years, or putting together the made in America products youve been patriotically buying, the world needs these people just like it needs you, and for us to turn our back on them at the end of their tax paying lives is unfair and adds to the growing bad taste we all have for the ever reaching right of the party. Oh and if you think the Govt is going to starve itself of the lost revenue when we cut the helpful things we all pay for think again. When you are watching Fox and that little voice in your head tells you that something just cant be true…google it. Unless that little voice is beaten, bloodied and slowly dying in the deepest recesses of your mind. If thats the case then I am truly sorry for you and anyone you infect with your factually unsupported nonsense.

        Good luck with your fantasy.

        1. ron i’m voting romney cause the bottom line is obama had 4 years to at least show improvment and hasn’t shit to at least prove he’s worth a second election so let the next guy have the opportunity at least he actually shows he cares obama does not i want aproud american in the white house not someone how could give 2 shits and a f**k less

          1. Well its nice to see you have some class. I wasnt swearing at you, just pointing out the facts. Please do not use the “proud American” line to describe a man that is clearly just singing the same old song of the party. Romney as a human being believes in some good, socially just and humane ideas, after all he did create the national healthcare bill by introducing and implementing it In Mass when he was governor. Why does he run from it? Romney as a presidential candidate is just a talking head for the far right wing.He’s like the popular kid who is only popular because he buys his friends whatever they want, He want to be liked soooo bad that it makes you not like him. You can choose to believe that Romney will do better but history and facts tells us a completely different story. 10 yrs of that with bush was enough. I like freedom, I feel more gets taken from me a little every year but I also like schools, I like roads, I like to know when I cross a bridge it wont buckle, I like snow removal, cops, firefighters, teachers, the post office, I like to think my tax dollars are going to help a man or woman that need a hand up not a hand out to get back on their feet. Food stamps have rose from 17b to 80b in the last 10..thats right 10 years, long before Obama things were on the decline, partly because of unfair trade and tax policy. Whats Mitts plan? Well lets give the rich basterds that keep moving jobs to China more money, lets keep giving them a pat on the back for undermining the American worker and the American dream. Good Job Fella’s! Heres another tax break…..but only if you promise to create American jobs this time…right. As we speak they sit on Trillions of American dollars and could pull us all out of the recession next week, but they dont, how much money is enough before its ok to give back? Proud American? The proud american is the person that goes to work everyday, pays their taxes and helps his fellow man. NOT Mitt Romney! I also like protection from the people with the loudest voice, who has the loudest voice you ask, me? you? all of us together cannot stop the money in the country from twisting the laws, regulation and tax policy to benefit their bottom line. I dont like Obama and dont want to vote for him…but I will. You should ask yourself why all the big money in the country if funding the Romney campaign, why the more regulation or tax policy changes thats not in their favor the louder the noise gets. I think the average republican is a good and helpful person, they work hard and do a lot of charity work. my wife and her entire family are, they are all great people. I watch Fox news regularly, But I also watch msnbc, history, science, and and local news as well as NPR. You should try changing the channel or at the very least use the internet to check the facts.

            All of those opinion based programs need to be held responsible for the division in the country, NOT the president or 90% of the politicians. The more we fight and argue the better ratings they get. One last question. If the sudo news stations that are based on opinion are so riotous and only want to keep you as informed, honest, fair, balanced and up to date as possible they why do they play the opponents adds? To prove how fair they are? I think not.

          2. let me get this straight you don’t like obama but you’ll vote for him like i said obama had four years to show improvment for the country and hasn’t done it he was supposed to help lower the deficit and didn’t went on all these lavish ass trips to europe and all these other places and vacations when his ass should have been at work and doing what he was getting paid to do i’ve never heard of a president go on so many trips like this and if they did it was to address that issues and make appearances i want a president that works hard not sit on his ass and sign shit without reading and making laws and budgets up without thinking or the repercussions he’s not reliable any obama promise is taken with a grain of salt in my book he promised a lot of things and none of them came through now i understand he is one man but if he could have at least lowered the deficit and unemployment some key problems then i would give him a second term cause then i would be like he has done this and this and he needs another term to finish his great work but thats not the case…..my husband and i have wasted so much gas money on him looking for a job that we have given up we are tired of interviews that don’t lead to hire and wasting gas fillng out applications and looking farther out for work since there are no jobs here so he stopped looking and we save more money in our pockets for important errands and bills. i got qualified and receive social security and its holding our heads above the water for now. i’m tired of holding my breath for obama…his change promises….yeah there is change all right bad to worse…..you can blame bush bush bush but if you have 4 years of presidency you should have made some kind of improvement by now if you made it worse that just shows you didn’t do anything and let what bush did ride out and get worse which he did as far as the economy goes everyone i know is losing there jobs and getting laid off i want a promise and a follow through not a hope to change.

  26. oh ya…Megan in 2016, Only person on here that makes any sense. Haters

  27. Anna, I am sorry about your employment status. Most people are not blaming Bush Bush Bush despite what you see and hear on the fake news. Most of us realize that its taken the better part of 30 years to get where we are. One of my many points has been that we would be in this situation regardless of the presidency, yes maybe we would be recovering faster if there was a rep president but he/she would only continue to ramp up the situation that got us here, maybe you would have a low paying job with poor working conditions but for how long? Not to mention he/she would have to be in the pocket of the Tea Baggers. We should learn a lesson. Gridlock is what you get when you elect a bunch of small minded and short sighted bigoted armatures. You complain about the deficit and these idiots have cost us billions in interest due to the debt ceiling debacle. Congress and the Senate fight over pennies. Yes you are correct. He is just one man, you want to make a difference then vote for your local politician, or better yet get involved and run for congress. You will only work a few weeks a year, get great pay, a great pension plan, health insurance and nobody will ever take it from you. Maybe you will get a chance to cut the social security the govt is keeping you and your family fed with. Price skyrocketing on everything under Obama? My budget doesnt reflect that, Prices started to climb about the time the ethanol subsidies took off, like big oil they too have been buying politicians to increase their bottom line at our expense. Why you ask? Because corn is in everything. Just like everything the Govt subsidizes for longer than necessary the price skyrockets. Lets start connecting the dots.

    ignoramus? Look in the mirror.

    1. ok i can’t take it anymore we have been doing this too long if obama gets another 4 years botttom line people will regret their votes and when they do i don’t wanna hear the crying of why didn’t i listen to romney i’m sick of telling people i told you so and so is everyone else so we shall see what happens

    2. I agree with anna look what obama has done and now his is doing more atrocities are you happy.

      1. i really dont think that obama really need to get all of hid stuff together so people of America can i have a better life.

  28. American conservatives, the majority of which live in states with the lowest scores for education and highest for crime, are the the only people on the entire freaking planet who don’t like Obamacare. And all other countries with health care scratch their heads in confusion at them. Yes, even the conservatives in those countries. I’m not sure how Obama is limiting your freedom of religion. Giving other people freedom you already have is not taking away your freedom. Unless you think your freedom is “freedom to stop other people from being equal and practicing their own religion instead of being able to bully them all into Christianity.” If you want religion in schools you have to realize there are other religion out there besides your own.

    1. we have lost the freedom we are not allowed to say the pledge of allegiance we can’t have bibles or anything in our schools with god or jesus by we have to allow everyone else the religion and shit us christians have lost that right jane are you dumb or blind or both? if you don’t want to do it thats on you but the kids and adults that choose to aren’t allowed its bullshit!!!!!

      1. Katherine Torkelson

        My grandchildren say the Pledge everyday. I don’t know where you live, but that is up to your State, not the federal government.

        People have no good common sense when they blame Obama from everything to what their schools will and won’t do to what kind of ammo they are allowed to buy.

        States rights wind up being more restrictive than the Federal government on many issues. Before you complain about something find out where the root cause is, then you can actually try to do something about it!

        Just blaming the feds for everything is really ignorant.

        1. You want to talk about don’t blame the feds for everything is really ignorant. Take a look at how everyone has blamed Bush for everything, something could happen now and Bush could still get the blame for it and he has been in office for four years. It’s like it’s ok to talk all the smack you want about Bush but god forbid we say anything about Obama the first thing people want to say is racism.

    2. Actually even the liberal pollsters say that 65% of Americans do not like or support Obamacare.

    3. Forcing religious institutions to go against their beliefs is indeed destroying religious freedom.

      1. ….and having so called religious institutions impose their beliefs on me kinda sucks.

    4. @Jane: Where are these states on which you so profoundly refer to? If you look at the public education system which is liberal to its root; has become a saddened disappointment. Obamacare is socialized medicine, which means taxes are needed to fund it. If businesses lay off workers or enact a hiring freeze due to the tax burden; meaning they would have to provide under the provisions of Obama’s health care the taxes necessary to keep it in place. Such a tax burden will bring thier profit margin to low records thus forcing layoffs and hiring freezes I mentioned early. Maybe you’re one of those have nots who demand from the haves a cut of what they have worked so hard for.

  29. Oboma is gonna kill us by 4 years u will prov. Be dead so um yea don’t cry whe that happenes hes gonna take away everyones gun so u will have no protection when we go in war and he is gonna put a tracker in us nd if u don’t get it then u will not be able to buy food there. 4 u will die. And if u get the tracked it means u deny Christ so when u die u go to hell. He is also taking money away from everyone. Etc. Don’t u c Wat’s gonna happen. I will pray for u. No wait?!?! Why should I?? Ur doing it to ur self. God……(while I can still say that word)

    1. If anyone votes for OBAMA Your just plain stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im leaving the country if he is reelected no way i would stay here!!!!!

      1. What we should do is clean house in Washington give everyone their pink slips and start over !!!!!!!!!! If you like liars keep voting for your friend OBAMA Who cares less about you or our country!!!! You wanted change how’s that change now??? People better drink some coffee and open your eyes and ears!!!Go see Obama 2016
        still playing in the theatres!!!!

      2. And its not about color or hate its about reality that man is not what america wants or needs!!!!!!!

      3. Sherry,

        Have you left yet? I mean, did you leave the country like you said you would, or was this just a B.S. boehner?

        If you need a buck or two to help you move, let me know.

    2. @Kelly: Go back to school, you’re an idiot!

    3. Hot dang there Skeeter, I luv that u kan spell and use them thar amerikan grammer.

      and you no them that Gud of yurs.

      LOL

    4. where do we find these grate amerikan spellers. Bunch of skeeters here.

      As I read these posts, I remember the kids who just sat back and didn’t work hard to learn spelling, math and those other important subjects that get us through life.

      Instead, we have a bunch of people who are sheep, can’t think for themselves and just luv them fox idiots.

      Stupid leading the stupid.

      Wake up! This is what is killing my beloved America.

  30. OK folks, here is the plain and simple truth. Barack Obama came into office with a socialist agenda. People were so mesmerized by this fast-talkin’ shister, that they voted for him, not knowing anything about him or his true intentions. After four years in office, he has divided this country, and has plans to destroy the american way of life. IF he is re-elected, most of the freedoms we have enjoyed for over 200 years will vanish. Sounds radical doesn’t it. Well, if we don’t vote this clown out of office, all that you have worked for and hoped for, will simply disappear and your lives and your children and grandchildren, will never see the standard of living that we have enjoyed up to this point. Obama is a dangerous man and if we allow this tyrant to complete his intended mission, America will fall. You will witness the greatest involuntary transfer of wealth and opportunity, ever seen on this planet. Look around and reflect upon the damage that he has already done to our culture and our society. He hates america and does not consider americans to be worthy of anything we have accomplished. He despices our constitution and will change or eliminate any part of it that does not agree with his “vision” for this country. And lastly, if Obama is re-elected, no one will be allowed to state what I have stated herein. This will be considered a criminal act and punishable by imprisonment. This will be the “NEW” america. Think about it folks. This is the most critical time america has ever faced. Vote Obama out, or be prepared to loose everything you have and to resign yourself to live in a very strict society, which will resemble russia under Stalin and Lenin. This is no joke, we’re in trouble !

  31. delavalmilker

    If Obama wins reelection; the white middle class male, the same ones who start and own small businesses, the same people who believe in working and pulling-yourself-up-by-your-own-bootstraps, the same ones who believe in and support America—these are the class of people who will quickly become the most despised minority in the country.

    The day after Obama is re-elected, the small business owners and job creators might just as well pull down their pants, bend over, and take their scr*wing like a man.

    1. job creators? the walmarts and koch brothers. They freaking pay crap to your white breathen so they can make what? over 125 billion dollars between them walmart heirs. Give me a break. If you think they care about you, you’re a bigger fool than any liberal out there.

      If that’s the case, I just hope you have gone to your boss and told him you’d work for less than minimum wage so that he/she can continue being a job creator.

  32. will morrison

    we are so screwed that I might as well put a bullet in my head

  33. D. Hauronski

    My predictions are:
    1. The middle class will grow due to the policy of the last four years, which leads to..
    2. The economy wil be at or near full steam at the end of 2013
    3. There will be a significant reduction of deficit due to a modest tax increase for the wealthiest Americans and a broadening of the tax base.
    4. Liberal leaning justices will be appointed to the Supreme Court leading the Roberts Court to a long string of historic popular judgements that return America to the world leader it was before George W. Bush.

  34. Well, I am one of those that voted for Obama but have realized the error of my ways. I voted for Reagan the first time too. So, here is a short list of things that may/will happen. The first addresses the so-called health care law which is in fact more government/NWO control over the American populace, cut off the head and the body will follow. Starting next March, we will all have to have dog chips implanted in us to supposedly weed out the people who aren’t eligible to receive health care, either they have it already or can afford it on their own. Watch out for the cyanide these chips contain, to be used on us when we become unsustainable by Agenda 21. Then there’s the 6000 storm troops, an addition to Obama’s illegal army, that will control us if we don’t bow to the HCL. This means they will come after me if I don’t get the chip. Then, there is the IRS that will administer the law. What gives the IRS any experience in running so-called health care?
    NONE! It’s all about controlling us, not health care. My insurance is going up $4500/year because of the health care law. Then there is all of the other things Obama and his NWO minions want to eliminate and control, basically destroying the USA. I never was a birther, I thought these people were full of hot air and just trying to make noise or trouble. Then, I saw the long form Donald got the administration to produce. It is a total fraud, just like Obama. Obama’s entire family background and the way he made it to the top is completely fraudulent. The last document expert online I saw examined the birth certificate from a layman’s point of view and he pinpointed at least 20 outstanding frauds, starting with the fact it is a copy of a copy. He came to the same conclusions I did. Someone was really stupid to let this out and couldn’t do a better job of forgery or they really want Obama outed. Obama is all about himself, the NWO and destroying the country. When he was on the Leno Show he admitted he couldn’t do math above the seventh grade level. How did he pass his high school exit exams, how did he pass the college entrance exams and how did he get into law school? How?!
    I could go on and on like most of you, just watch out for those other 20,000 domestic shock troops already to go to control us and the 450,000,000 extra rounds of wall penetrating ammo the American Gestapo has ordered!!!

    1. Georgiy Potulov

      This has nothing to do with RFID chips. 1 Hr3200 is not the bill that past, HR4872 is. 2 the national registry for the implants is a registry to track medically implantable devices like pace makers and such. No where in either bill does it say anyone has to be implanted with an RFID chip. You people almost had me but I took it one step further I read the Bills, I suggest you do the same and stop the fear mongering

  35. Rob-dawg!

    @ D. Hauronski

    Your predictions were:
    1. The middle class will grow due to the policy of the last four years, which leads to..
    2. The economy wil be at or near full steam at the end of 2013
    3. There will be a significant reduction of deficit due to a modest tax increase for the wealthiest Americans and a broadening of the tax base.
    4. Liberal leaning justices will be appointed to the Supreme Court leading the Roberts Court to a long string of historic popular judgements that return America to the world leader it was before George W. Bush.

    Do you stand by them now? We have 7 months to go…

  36. Sir Earl Wilmer Jones KT

    The Rev was right they came home to roost however Americans are getting hungery and tired of the bs by a gov. that does not respond to the needs of Americans. Most of of our children and many students know what and how America is being destroyed.History repeats itself we are on our way to becoming a Hitler style goverment. It will fail and those to blame will be tarred and feathered.By HSC

  37. Unknown

    This is scary

  38. Great Kodiak

    I agree, this is all very scary. This has nothing to do with democrats and republicans, nothing to do with race or wealth. The entire system is inherently flawed and will never change, no matter which party is in power.

    1. And like any machine that has a flawed design, a system that is not fixed either explodes or comes grinding to a halt.

  39. Amarillo Steve

    Not to mention the 100 million Muslims he want to install in the country, many to become full US Citizens after jusdt 10 weeks (WTF???) in his quest to Islamize the Caliphate of America.

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