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  1. AsianAmericanConservative

    Conservative values are welcome and practiced by the majority of Asian Americans, but GOP politics is very different from Conservative values. Many on the right claim to be conservatives but they are practicing divisive GOP politics. For example, do you remember Rush Limbaugh’s insidious ching-chonging to mock Chinese president Hu when Hu visited the White House a couple of years ago? How is that going to rally Asian Americans’ support on election day? Romney’s China bashing by labeling China currency manipulator only shows that he was so out of touch. Chinese yuan has appreciated from 9-to-1 to 6-to-1 (6 yuan equals USD$1) in the last few years. Most Asian Americans don’t care gay or abortion issue one way or another. So I don’t believe social conservatives are the problem with this group. Racism is the problem. When some of you GOP operatives (i.e. Ron Paul supporters) tell us that we don’t represent you well because “you are not Americans; you are naturalized U.S. citizens and don’t represent the majority of us.” What do you think we would do?

    I am Asian American and a conservative. I believe Asian Americans are dying to come over to the GOP camp if GOP leaders and GOP strategists like Carl Rove can grow a backbone and publicly rebuke extremists like Rush Limbaugh when he is so out of line. Nobody likes to get his or her linguistic or cultural heritage insulted? GOP needs to clean up the image of both its politicians and its defecto spokespersons like Limbaugh, Hannity and Coulter.

    Think about this. In 2008. only 1% of voters are Asian Americans. In 2012, 3% are. In 2016, it will stay at least 3% and can get higher if there are divisive issues or candidates. There are a lot more Asian Americans who have not been mobalized yet.

    1. Yes, I remember Limbaugh. But, I also remember seeing the same thing done on Saturday Night Live… not exactly a conservative bastion.

    2. Here is the choice. America first, or ancestry first. Other than my physical features, I have nothing in common with the people of Asia. Generations ago, Americans of Japanese Ancestry had a similar choice. Despite internment and racial discrimination they chose America. Some volunteered to fight against Germany, other served in Pacific fighting against the country of their parents birth.

      I think maybe you are little too sensitive and you need to realize that China is led by an oppressive dictatorship that is a hostile adversary to the United States.

      Limbaugh was making fun off a Chinese dictator just as he would make fun of Saddam Hussein or Putin. Have you ever heard his Russian accent?

      It was also legitimate for Romney to raise the issue of currency manipulation. In my view the theft of intellectual property is more an issue. Is that racist? Does the Chinese dictatorship believe in the rule of law? Is it a country that anyone should emulate or admire?

      Your post and others commenting on this issue illustrates that victimization and tribalism has been indoctrinated by the organs of the Left into beliefs of many minorities in the United States. Everything is viewed through a racial lens. I don’t see how we escape this. If we don’t, the American experiment with self governing will cease.

      1. Blain, please STFU. Ching Chong is a racist. No matter who it is say to.

  2. It’s really simple why Asian Americans don’t vote GOP, in no particular order:

    1) Asian Americans value intellect/education highly. The GOP is the party of anti-intellectualism/education. When we see, for example, conservative school boards in Texas trying to rewrite textbooks to fit their agenda rather than facts, when we see conservatives trying to teach creationism in schools and deny evolution is real, that’s a big turn off.

    2) Asian Americans, especially the younger generation are turned off by the bigotry displayed by the GOP when it comes to homosexuals and immigrants. Also, when you question Barack Obama’s ‘Americaness’, that just reminds us of the racism and the label of being ‘other’ that we grew up with. That resonated deeply with us.

    3) The overwhelming majority of us were absolutely disgusted by the wars that the GOP waged. This was BOTH an moral and fiscal issue. Even my parents, whom i would describe as ‘somewhat socially conservative democrats’ were disgusted by it. Add to the fact that the GOP cut taxes on put the war on credit cards, you can say there’s a fiscal element to that. You can debate all you want about whether Asians are socially/fiscally liberal/conservative, but we are NOT neo-cons who want to ‘project American power’.

    4) Most Asians come from countries that have a more pragmatic view of government. We have single payer healthcare and regulated trade. Yes, we are entrepreneurial, but we are not free market fundamentalists. Many 1st generation Asian Americans also grew up on government assistance. We’re not going to all of a sudden deny others that when many of us benefited ourselves. When Mitt Romney was campaigning against the ‘47%’ and against handouts, and it turned out his own father grew up on welfare, that again, struck a chord among us.

    1. MacDaddyWatch

      Or maybe the majority of Asian Americans won’t tolerate LDS or Roman Catholics–both generally viewed as being conservative.

      Or maybe their financial illiteracy was simply exposed.

      1. Their financial illiteracy is on full display as the richest sets of minorities in the US.

      2. Asian Americans don’t care about the person’s particular religion as long as they aren’t the fundamentalist kind.

        As for financial illiteracy, uhm, we have the highest median income of any group and higher savings rates.

  3. One more thing: Us Asian Americans are constantly reminded that the market works against us. There’s a ‘bamboo ceiling’ for Asian American professionals. How many Asian American executives do you see? Not that many.

  4. I think Mr. Biggs is right on both counts: 1) white racism, real or perceived, motivates immigrant minority support for the Democratic Party, and 2) alienating “so-co moms” (to coin a phrase) in pursuit of a slice of 3 % of the 2012 electorate might prove to be a bad deal for the GOP.

  5. I think Charles Murray is onto to something, but he has missed the mark. The problem is not the GOP’s positions on social issues or the way they advocate their ideas. They could ignore the social issue like Romney did, or take more Libertarian positions and still would be demonized as racists. I think there are two main reasons why most Americans of Asian ancestry do not vote for Republicans.

    First and foremost, Asians like Blacks, Hispanics, and every other “minority” groups have been indoctrinated into the Left’s view on victimization and tribalism. Most do not see themselves as Americans first but identify more closely with their ethnic group. Every position or statement is viewed through a racial lens. America is not viewed an exceptional nation that has aspired to a higher ideal, but as a nation that has oppressed it’s people throughout its history. I think that is the common theme that runs through many of the comment here by the Left.

    Second, the Left and mainstream media has effectively demonized Republicans and the Republican Party. They are racist and favor the rich. Don’t vote for them. The Left is unable to an engage in a discussion of economics or public policy but they have mastered the art of personal destruction.

    1. Blain,

      I agree with most of what you are saying here (except that I think progressives are able to discuss economics and public policy).

      I don’t know if the real Malcolm X ever actually said these words, but in the Spike Lee movie he says “You’re not an American, you’re a victim of America!”

      Unfortunately, and somewhat ludicrously, I grew up with that attitude — even though the white racism we had encountered was actually trivial (verbal taunts, minor vandalism, minor injuries: nothing like the brutal racial oppression of the Jim Crow era). So for me personally, voting GOP in the recent election was my way of rebuking my former self: “I’m not a victim of America: I’m an American!”

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