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  1. Since politicians can buy women’s votes endlessly even with memes totally bereft of facts, this will never go away.

    Rather, it demonstrates why a democracy, over time, devolves into a ‘feminist’ police state.

    No election in America, from now on, will *not* be dominated by some ‘women’s issue’ or the other, as that is the bread and butter of any lefty electoral strategy. In fact, this is crowding out just about every other issue.

  2. marque2

    Would it be OK to post your charts on Facebook?

    1. If you’re talking about my charts, of course!

  3. Great work Mark, and a most interesting read.
    What a shame people like you have to devote so much time and energy to deconstructing lies and misrepresentations in the hope of bringing about a meeting of the minds via informed debate … instead of being able to by-pass the BS and just go straight to working together to address important social issues that affect men and women.

  4. Joe Bannister

    The charts are examples of PC-correct hysteria.

    Women and rape, the threat of terrorism, that threat of radiation—all widely exaggerated for some political and financial end.

    How about this number: Since 9/11, more than 180,000 Americans have been murdered by terrorists—they were called drunk drivers. True, too.

    But oh, the rapes, the terrorists, the radiation!!!

  5. Bob Smith

    Basically, women are so safe that you have to invent ways to make them victims. Note they also cleverly fail to break down war deaths by sex.

  6. Seattle Sam

    Democrats are essentially asserting that women are too stupid to do correctly process statistics in their pretty little heads.

    1. Joe Bannister

      And the federal government has convinced the American public that some Islamic hillbillies are a national security threat requiring literally trillions of dollars in outlays…

      1. Yes, those Islamic hillbillies would never be able to topple buildings in New York, attack military headquarters in Washington, blow up train stations in Madrid and buses in London, or provide spiritual guidance to Muslims who shoot up US Army bases, murder Army recruiters in Arkansas, or set off bombs at the Boston marathon.

  7. Jon Murphy

    I have a snarky comment:

    If the war on women means harming women
    The war on terror means harming terrorists
    The war on drugs means harming drug users

    Does that mean the war on poverty means harming poor people?

    1. They’re harmed but they’re also getting free stuff, and getting paid to produce likely future burdens on society.

      Law abiding taxpayers are getting nothing but harm.

  8. Hieronymus


  9. Citizen Buddy

    Most known murderers are African American males and most of their victims are African American males.

    So, where is the narrative that the biggest war in the U.S. is amongst African Americans males?

    I don’t think recognizing this has the political payoff for votes that the “War on Women” has for the leftists.

    1. I’d like to see a chart that broke out the stats by race. I guess that would be racist, though. I believe at least some of the FBI Uniform Crime Reports do show numbers by race.

  10. toochrispy

    Excellent analysis!

    Furthermore, the info-graphic is very misleading by cherry-picking simple absolute numbers. They should have presented mortality rates to get a true apples to apples comparison.

    I bet if they took an unbiased approach, they will see that the mortality rate of women killed by intimate partners will be miniscule compares to the mortality rate in the battlefield.

    1. toochrispy

      Do you not know how to read???? Dr. Perry was saying that the comparing deaths of women and deaths in the battlefield is a ridiculous comparison. I was echoing the same sentiment.

      1. toochrispy

        He didn’t say that. Don’t put words in other people’s mouths. Also, learn how to read.

  11. Peter M

    Almost every issue in the limelight today suffers from data misrepresentation and half-truths. I personally believe this is a result of massive amounts of individuals possessing massive amounts of information at the click of a button. When you have that much information, it’s a lot easier to read a headline and make assumptions than it is to be diligent. I think as a society, we are still adapting to the unprecedented changes in our technology. People assuming they know everything is a predictable result of humanity having the whole of our history available for free.

    1. Jon Murphy

      As Dogbert once said, knowledge growth is exponential, but one’s ability to comprehend knowledge is unchanged. It’s like aiming a fire-hose at a teacup

  12. Steven Hales

    Sock puppet alert.

  13. toochrispy

    You’re quoting Dr. Perry saying that men have a higher chance of being murdered than women.

    “[M]en are at a four-time greater risk than women of being murdered overall”

    “[M]en..are six-times more likely than women to be murdered by somebody besides an intimate partner.”

    Seriously, do you know how to read?

    1. waytoochrispy

      “the fact men are murderous towards each other”

      Nobody said that. I didn’t say that. Dr. Perry didn’t say that.

      You said that. You made it up. Stop creating strawman arguments.

  14. “War” implies two sides—i.e., men killing women, the example the original chart makes. Or your counter-example of women killing men.

    But then you throw in the bar for how many men are murdered by people other than their partners.

    Who do you think is doing all that murdering?

    According to Table 1 in the report you’re citing, 89.5% of all murders are committed by men, even though they’re a minority! So, you’re right, the original chart is misleading. Men haven’t just declared war on women; they’ve declared war on everyone.

    It’s also pretty fascinating that despite how many more men are murdered overall, men are still the victims of domestic violence only 2/3 as often as women. Ah, statistics.

    By the way, Table 6 says that the percentages are for the 63.1% of homicides for which a relationship was known, not for all of them. That might be why your count of women murdered by partners is so different from the original chart’s. Might be a good idea to read the entire chart you’re quoting before you use it to accuse others of statistical fraud.

    1. Bob Smith

      “It’s also pretty fascinating that despite how many more men are murdered overall, men are still the victims of domestic violence only 2/3 as often as women. Ah, statistics.”

      So domestic violence is a more important kind of violence?

      1. Flareon

        It’s a different kind of violence. If you want to claim that there is a war on men, you also have to claim that the violence being directed towards them is because they are men. Soldiers don’t kill other soldiers because they are men (which they may or may not be, I imagine most soldiers don’t care), they kill them because they fight for another country. Domestic violence in either direction is expressly sexual, which is why it’s important that it’s gender-biased.

  15. I agree with your bottom line, but are you making an assumption that all of the murderous intimate partners of men are female or is this stated in the original stats? Given a higher level of violence carried out by men, I would expect higher levels of male same-sex partner murder than female same-sex partner murder.

    As long as your talking gender disparities in death, how about suicides? I’m not exactly a WISQARS wizard, but it looks to me like men kill themselves at almost a 4:1 basis compared to women. If that was women dying at a higher prevalence it would be a crisis, but since it’s men it’s not important because they’re doing it to themselves?

    My bottom line is that there’s little that “a nation” can do to move these statistics other than increase prosperity. In the history of mankind, prosperity is the only non-culturally dependent variable that can increase the well being of humans, and economic freedom is the only culturally independent variable that can help us achieve greater prosperity.

  16. Bob Smith

    That’s absurd. Not once have I heard a man justify his actions because “she’s a woman”. “She cheated on me” or “she’s stupid” or “she stole from me”. Never ever “she’s female” or “I have the right to beat women”.

  17. gcharles

    For sake of accuracy, I don’t think blacks are most murderers/most murdered by raw numbers, although they are on a percentage basis (by 3 or 4x). I don’t have a link to the stats, but would appreciate if someone else does.

    1. The raw numbers for 2011 are here

  18. It almost seems that progressive advocate groups, including the MSM have found a copy of “How to Lie with Statistics”, with the Lie with torn off the cover. It does seem that every trick presented in the book is used.

  19. The murder rate for African-American women is 6 times that of white women. Perhaps one way to end the War on Women is to convince African-American women from having African-American men as their partners. Of course, saying something like that is not acceptable in polite society.

  20. Brian Macker

    It’s really a chart showing what an amazing job Bush did in preventing casualties during the Afghan and Iraqi wars.

  21. Brian Macker

    It’s really a chart showing what an absolutely amazing job Bush did in preventing casualties during the Afghan and Iraqi wars.

  22. bill carpenter

    I would like to see the last two graphs with the death by strangers. It would seem likely that a good percentage of those are sexually random in that the killer did not care about the sex of the person they killed.

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