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  1. you know that demon ethanol has to be one of the most misguided public policies in U.S. history.

    Obama’s own Ag Secretary admits they have their own agenda:

    “Among the morsels in AP’s probe: Pro-ethanol Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack doesn’t try to make the case that the fuel helps battle climate change.

    “I don’t know whether I can make the environmental argument, or the economic argument,” Vilsack tells AP. “To me, it’s an opportunity argument.”

    http://thehill.com/blogs/e2-wire/189852-ag-secretary-vilsack-%E2%80%98i-don%E2%80%99t-know%E2%80%99-whether-ethanol-helps-climate

    Ol’ Nutsack doesn’t even trying to hide it. They’re so ensconced in the corruption that they’ve actually lost sight of it.

  2. You are 100% wrong, Mark. It’s policy perfectly guided….into political cronies’ pockets.

  3. Ethanol grows campaign bribes.

  4. John Warren

    Exactly. This has nothing to do with the environment, the farmers, energy independence and etc. Goldman Sachs and ethanol credit trading is why we starve the poor and rape the land.

    1. morganovich

      um, are you seriously trying to blame ethanol on goldman sachs?

  5. To get rid of the corn ethanol subsidy you have to move the Iowa Caucuses later in the primary season. Today if you run for president you need to do well in the Iowa caucuses, and to do that you have to be for corn ethanol, because it means more income for Iowa corn growers. (The price is higher for corn as a result). Since you won’t get the folks in Ia to change their position, you can’t get rid of it. (Also if you look you have at least 18 senators who favor it to do what their constituents want, Oh,In,Il,IA,Mo,Ky,Tn,KS,Ne (at a minimum)

    1. MN WI SD KS MI are also pretty big on corn. Problem is it isn’t an Iowa thing. It is the entire corn belt that wants corn subsidies. If the first state moved to NH we would still have a big push for corn subsidies. I hate when folks make generalities like this. Don’t just blame Iowa.

      I didn’t know they grew much corn in Tn and KY.

      Here is a map of the corn belt for reference.
      http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_Belt

      1. When I drove thru at least Western KY and Tn I saw a lot of corn.

        1. I would say you saw some corn. Western Kentucky is in the corn belt, just not a a very strong producer. The map is helpful.

          Of course my perspective may be skewed having lived in Iowa for a few years. Now there, they produce corn!

          Which is interesting – because Quaker Oats has their biggest cereal factory there, and they need to import the oats from Canada – why would QO build in the middle of Iowa – Answer, Iowa used to have a much more diverse farming style, until the government started meddling. Yes they used to grow, oats, as well as Apples (Red Delicious – the most famous – is an Iowa variety!) Tobacco …

          Now it is just Corn and soybeans.

          1. Note QO built the factor in Iowa about 120 years ago.

  6. Benjamin Cole

    Dr. Perry may have stumbled on a way to finally kill the red-pink rural state socialist ethal program…call it “Obamanol.”
    President Bush “I’m an ethanol man” Jr. ramped the agriculture program called ethanol. He even tried to mandate use of cellulosic ethanol.
    Obama, as with the Eatcrapistan follies, has been an extension of Bush.

    1. Benji, you’re late. I assumed you would have done your usual copy-paste job hours ago.

  7. Benjamin Cole

    “Obamanol” is new. Not a copy-and-paste.

    The only problem with “Obamanol” is….everyone knows ethanol is really a red-pink state program, and the red-pinkers did not vote for Obama….

    I wonder if there is a bust of Lenin secreted somewhere inside the USDA…does the USDA stand for “United Soviet Department of Agriculture”?

    1. Benji Troll,

      The only problem with “Obamanol” is….everyone knows ethanol is really a red-pink state program, and the red-pinkers did not vote for Obama….

      Thanks for demonstrating once again just how uninformed/dishonest you are. Your boyfriend was a huge ethanol whore Senator from Illinois. As is fellow nitwit Dick Durbin. Obama’s own Ag Sec is Tom Vilsack, the former Iowa Gov who bleeds ethanol when he’s cut.

      Illinois is a blue state. Iowa went Obama the past 2 elections. Minnesota has been blue forever. Wisconsin went blue in 08 and 12. I could go on regarding Democrat pro-ethanol Senators and Congressmen.

      I wonder if there is a bust of Lenin secreted somewhere inside the USDA…does the USDA stand for “United Soviet Department of Agriculture”?

      Very possibly considering 80% of the USDA’s budget is devoted to making sure that your communist boyfriend’s voters get their food stamps. Ooh, SNAP!

      http://www.snaptohealth.org/farm-bill-usda/u-s-farm-bill-faq/

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