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  1. Robert puharic

    I agree Paul should keep talking. Especially when what he says isn’t true

    http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2014/03/04/Economists-Say-Paul-Ryan-Misrepresented-Their-Research

    An exhaustive critique of the federal social safety net released by Rep. Paul Ryan on Monday is meant to be the intellectual foundation for an overhaul of the federal anti-poverty programs. But interviews with economists – a number of whom are cited in Ryan’s paper – suggest that he may be building his house on sand. – See more at: http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2014/03/04/Economists-Say-Paul-Ryan-Misrepresented-Their-Research#sthash.5UEkGLEN.dpuf

  2. juandos

    But interviews with economists – a number of whom are cited in Ryan’s paper – suggest that he may be building his house on sand“…

    What did you expect lefties to say, especially those lefties that built a career on the premise that pandering to parasites by extorting from the productive is somehow a good thing and the reporter Garver who’s in bed with them?

    War on Poverty Is a Failure

    1. Robert puharic

      So your argument is that Ryan incorrectly quoted a bunch of ‘leftie’ (sic) economists, and that’s a good way to make a right wing argument?

      Really?

    2. juandos

      right wing argument?“…

      First and foremost its NOT a right wing argument except to people like you and RINO Ryan…

      There is NO clause in the Constitution and its attendent Bill of Rights that mandates the federal government to do wealth transfer, basically stealing from the productive in order to buy your vote with their silly socialist Ponzi schemes…

      Anti-Logic and the Keynesian “Stimulus”
      Mises Daily: Monday, March 03, 2014 by William L. Anderson

      1. I clicked a link and got here. What I thought might be thought provoking dialog is……You don’t buy votes. Period. If that were the case, there would never have been a Republican President since welfare was started. Matter of fact, i doubt there’d be a Republican party. What have they done to help the poor? Elderly?…ah yes…Medicare Part D. Of course!!
        And how does the Government steal what is actually theirs? They print the money….It’s not ours.

      2. Robert puharic

        And there is no provision in the constitution that prohibits taxing the takers…the elites…to create a socially stable system for job creators…the middle class.

  3. Tom Sullivan

    The war on poverty was sold as a way to reduce poverty, and reduce the amount spent on welfare over the long run. It has been a complete failure on that score. In truth its is a permanent vote-buying scheme giving money to far more people than those living in poverty. It spends enough money to put all the poverty cases at or above the median family income. After 50 years of failure, it is time to revamp the welfare state money pit, and find a way to restore the reduction of poverty, the 20-year trend before the “war” began. The war on poverty has subsidized and preserved what it was supposed to reduce.

    1. Robert puharic

      The fact Paul Ryan got his facts wrong, according to the economists he cited, as the reference I posted showed?

      Ignored by the right.

      And what about the welfare programs for elites?

    2. juandos

      And what about the welfare programs for elites?“…

      What are these alledged ‘welfare programs for the elities‘ and do these supposed programs bring down the amount they owe in taxes to the level you pay?

      That’s not a rhetorical question…

      I’m still trying to sift through the leftist logic of why a person who make $250K/year should pay one more penny in taxes than someone making $25K/year…

      1. “I’m still trying to sift through the leftist logic of why a person who make $250K/year should pay one more penny in taxes than someone making $25K/year…”

        well for starters there’s an extra “0” in 250K

        1. Robert puharic

          The right is confused between DISPOSABLE income and DISCRETIONARY income. They think they should be taxed identically. That’s a form of welfare for elites

      2. Robert puharic

        Welfare for elites include
        -Mitt Romney’s $10M FDIC welfare check for busting companies and laying off taxpayers
        -Michele Bachmann’s ag subsidy welfare checks
        -The $188 MILLION the right gave to tobacco companies last year
        -The TARP welfare bailout made necessary by right wing socialist supply side welfare for 30 years

        In fact, tea partier Rep Yoho of FL said it would be unfair to millionaires to cut their subsidies since they have come to rely on them

        Again and again and again conservatives show they have NO CLUE about what’s happening in America. Outside of right wing talk radio they have no idea of the facts

  4. Basic employment, let alone upward mobility, is more difficult to acquire especially when business’s ethic is the maximization of profits and where technological unemployment and the increased supply of labor through globalization are forever reducing jobs here. The worker is at the mercy of our current economy.

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