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  1. MacDaddyWatch

    Who was the real NUT here?

    What about the killer’s now dead mother who did not have the guns secured under lock and key in a gun-safe inside a house known to be home for at least one mentally ill and unstable person?

    Would you ride the subway carrying a bag full of Glocks and Sig Sauers? Would you carry a Bushmaster into a saloon?

    Responsibility and common sense seem to be absent from this disaster.

    1. these clowns need more training

  2. (1) We neither need an armed America, nor a disarmed America. (2) Military-style weapons (assault weapons, high capacity clips, etc.) should not be in the hands of any of the general population. (3) As for 2nd Amendment nuts that think they are the last link to preventing a totalitarian take-over of the country so the need for guns — Gandhi and MLK Jr were able to move a nation without firing a shot. (4) As for the NRA need for armed citizens to oppose mass shootings — (a) there were two armed police at Columbine and one of the perpetuators blew right by one of the guards; and (b) in 2008 in Knoxville, TN a right-wing nut went into a Unitarian Church during a Sunday service to shoot-up liberals (and killed a few and injured a few more) and was stopped, not by a person with a gun, but by church members who tackled him.

    1. we need gun control

      1. why do we need guns on the street that were designed to kill as many people quickly as possible in wars’ we need to
        to make sure these rifles and guns have a limited magazine capacity of 6 rounds, and People with criminal records and the mentally ill should never have access to guns, There should be a waiting and background check of 90 days to aquire a gun purchase,These assault rifles should be banned as Illegal with a fine for ownership and or a jail term, owner should have the option to surrender their assault rifles without sanction within 90 days
        Better storage of guns in a metal locked safe is required to prevent access by children and people with any illness, we as citizens have the possibility to change the laws to improve public and street safety

    2. we all have the rights to own reasonable gun’s ie’ a rifle for hunting, a shotgun for game birds and a hand gun for home protection, if we have a clear criminal record and no mental issue’s we should have no problem pre qualifying in the background check prior to the purchase of the guns we want to fullfill the wishe’s in our rights, We then have the responsibility to ensure all these guns are secured in a steel lockable gun safe away from children, and if we want the children to use the rifles, we must for safety send them to gun safety training courses, seems pretty basic stuff, Guns will not be taken away unless we abuse their use in criminal activitie’s in which we have abused our own right’s and must suffer the action’s of the prevailing law’s

  3. could not agree more

  4. Bully’s, there are lots of them out there, some are people acting alone and some come in the form of groups, most are unaware they are bully’s.

    Bullying.. It’s human nature right or wrong and every culture throughout all of human history has and will engage in it, couple that with most if not all cultures being ethnocentric, or culture centric and well we get a lot of people doing lots of mean stuff in the name of the moral hi-ground. In fact it is the “nature of nature” that bullying occur. There are millions of examples in nature. And lets face it we bully people into following our laws (rules considered moral and just), through threat of force, and if that doesn’t work the guns come out.

    SO what to do about gun violence? OR in other words what to do about violence through the use guns /wink.

    I don’t like it one bit that people are out there shooting up other people, but I don’t feel I have the right to tell others they can’t protect themselves, be it from a common thief or an out of control group of people who “feel” they have the moral hi-ground, small or large and unfortunately the “gun” is the most effective means of protecting oneself or imposing your “assumed moral hi-ground” on other people.

    I find it ironic that those who think they have the moral hi-ground to tell others they don’t have the right to protect themselves by the best means possible, will indeed impose their moral belief through the use of “force” or lol, might makes right.

    While true Gandhi and MLK Jr “were able to move a nation without firing a shot”, you know dam well those are an aberration in the extreme, extreme, so far outside of the mean that is not even a cogent argument. In fact I think it’s rather ignorant given the breadth of human history and it’s numerous examples of might makes right. Did not Mao say that political power comes at the point of a gun.

    Weather you like it or not IT IS a basic “Human Right” to be able to defend your self, family and community. One that no one person or group, large or small, has the right to take away from you. In fact it’s guaranteed to you under the second amendment, “Shall not infringe” and before you go all nutty and say OH YA well they never intended some one to have a military weapon with a high capacity magazine that’s semi-auto, first go read the Federalist papers and see for yourself what Alexander Hamilton had to say about the second amendment, it’s fairly clear they intended “the people to have military” weapons

    so you people, stop acting like the ancient Greeks, where you got mob rule through populist whims. Why don’t you just move forward and support basic human rights instead of living in the past.

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