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  1. JP,
    PLEASE, use some of your inherited wisdom…
    You started quoting unreasonably thinking folks.
    Ponnuru DOES NOT use reasoning on his thinking.
    Here is my take:
    Firstly, Reps did not lose by a landslide and act like they did.
    Secondly, I am sick and tired of reading about this “middle class” bs from all of you bloggers. What will be the next leftist catch you’ll start using, upper welfare class?
    If you have any conservative brain cells left on your head then put them to work.
    Thirdly, the demographics of the US have forever changed thanks to chain migration by design. However, most of the highest percentage voters (70% plus) for Obama -blacks, muslims, hispanics, asians and jews- are conservative thinking folks. So, instead of “dropping” your pants down to attract these groups PROVE to them that they are on your side AND NOT sell the country to the highest bidder, like the Left does, to appease them financially and hold them (except the jews) financial slaves for years to come.
    Lastly, could you imagine if the tables were turned around and the Dems lost -by a landslide- to the Reps?
    Do you think for a second that they would run to renounce their ideology and start preaching less government, flat taxes, no handouts, closed borders, free markets, etc.?
    If any conservative thinks affirmatively then all is lost.
    FOLKS, only this battle is LOST in this election!
    Please do not sell out your principles and contribute so that the war is lost just because any “Ponnuru” fool thinks so…

  2. Max Planck

    “Firstly, Reps did not lose by a landslide and act like they did.”

    They were completely bombed out- were it not for gerrymandering that so-called “majority” they have in the House would have been gone.

    ” However, most of the highest percentage voters (70% plus) for Obama -blacks, muslims, hispanics, asians and jews- are conservative thinking folks”

    This is an example of cognitive dissonance at it’s finest. Utterly blind.

    “Do you think for a second that they would run to renounce their ideology and start preaching less government, no handouts, free markets, etc.?”

    The Red States are the biggest handout recipients by far, and for my money, I say let them all secede. Let’s see how Jindal runs that giant slum without money from Washingtonn, redistributed from Blue States

    1. Montana Max,
      You mean insolvent “Red States” like CA, IL, NJ and NY?
      Who is halucinating here???
      Anyways, there is no point even replying to you but I just wish you would take your medication once in a while, see your rabbi or priest or whatever, and forget about commenting on political opinions; that’s for the ones who have some brain cells in their “penthouse” and could reason a little bit.
      “Let them all secede”???
      YOU FRAUD!!!
      Millions have lost their lives for America to be called The UNITED States of America.
      What sewer did you come out of?
      Go back in and take your ilk and Jindal with you…

      1. Max Planck

        “You mean insolvent “Red States” like CA, IL, NJ and NY?”

        They’re not insolvent, and if they were, its because they are victims of the redistributionist policy you people claim to abhor.

        With the exception of Texas (since by accident of nature, it has oil) ALL RED STATES are welfare states, living off the Blue ones.

        http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/04/the_red_state_ripoff.html

        http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-gop-is-the-food-stamp-party/

        Red states get more money from Washington, transferred from states that actually produce this nation’s wealth, unlike open, fetid sewers like Haley Barbour’s Mississippi.

        “Millions have lost their lives for America to be called The UNITED States of America.”

        Pity- we should have let the South secede, and maintain the institutions it is famous for: ignorance, racism, slavery, backwardness, poverty and sloth.

        If these states secede, I get a nice tax cut. And there is nothing better than a tax cut, right, Jimmy boy?

        1. Peter Schaeffer

          MP,

          Check the facts below you post. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_taxation_and_spending_by_state#History_of_Federal_Monitoring_of_Taxation_and_Spending_by_State

          Quite a few red states are net contributors. Of course, extreme blue DC is the biggest per-capita burden.

          However, you really shouldn’t follow the link. Facts can be scary.

  3. Todd Mason

    The three major lessons of 2012: Dubya has pretty much killed the trickle-down argument for the foreseeable future, hence the majority of voters who left the polls blaming Bush for the economy rather than Obama.

    Republicans can no longer say ‘We’re old, we’re white, and we’re dying off but we have the money. Obama demonstrated that feet on the ground can trump money.

    The religious right, by backing extreme positions on women’s health, represents a mixed blessing, pun intended.

    In short, the pendulum has swung. A Rockefeller R (or Bentsen D) could carry the day with fiscal conservatism and social liberalism. The question is whether the likes of Oly or Ralph Reed would let him/her survive the primary. Okay, there’s a fourth lesson. What we need is a fiscal conservative who can win the nomination without being crazy, or in Mitt’s case, looking crazy.

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