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  1. Conservatives and Republicans do not need to change their principles so much as they need to change the delivery of those principles. (Speaking as both a conservative and a registered Republican)

    The GOP cannot simply adopt a compromise position on ‘Comprehensive Immigration Reform’ and then assume any more Hispanic voters are going to swing to the right. The Democrats will always be a step further left, promising more freebies and accusing the Right of race-baiting, xenophobia, et al. It’s a given. To begin a recovery, it’s necessary for us to come to grips with basic first principles, and find the most effective way of communicating those principles to people outside the ‘right wing bubble’. In other words, simply pandering (or fear-mongering) to identity-groups (as Democrats do) is not a long-term strategy.

    If illegal immigration is wrong, and if our immigration laws should be enforced, the GOP should be able to articulate those reasons clearly. If our immigration laws need to be reformed, then the problems need to be clearly explained, and the proposed solutions actually presented and discussed honestly, instead of cutesy little labels like ‘Comprehensive Immigration Reform’ or ‘DREAM Act’ or what-have-you.

    1. David Olds

      You are too optimistic. The scales have tipped permanently. You can’t beat a birthrate. Its the same in other western countries. More civilized people have fewer children; 3rd world people have more. Inevitably the 3rd world rules and civilization goes down (at least) a notch. Evolution in reverse.
      “When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.”
      And human nature is incompatable with democracy.
      Most people are not bright enough to see the consequences (how many?) years down the road. It’s all about, me me me and now now now. Let the next generation deal with it. That’s their problem, assuming they even think that far ahead. Ignorance is bliss. That’s great if you don’t have children. If you do, and don’t deceive yourself about consequences, you worry.
      The American experiment has failed due to modern day “Liberal” thinking. “Break china laughing” Jefferson Airplane

  2. exObjectivist

    This comment was posted on TPM today in response to an article on Romney’s conference call Wednesday with campaign donors. It speaks volumes to the issue:

    Proud Citizen • 2 hours ago −
    As a Latino that was the first person in his family to graduate from college (a State college at that) and graduate from a law school and work at a big law firm in New York City, I want to go on the record that the statements that Mr. Romney made at today’s conference call are completely disgusting. As a Latino, I did not vote for Mr. Romney because he fundamentally does not understand the issues that most effect me. Yes, I make a $100K a year but not just because I work hard, I make that salary because of the hard work of my parents that helped me pay for college, I also owe part of my success to the union jobs that my parents had that provided them with decent wages and healthcare to take care of me growing up, I also owe a huge debt to the State of NY and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania that educated me. You see, Latino culture understands and appreciate the fact that we achieve success through the sacrifice and hard work of others that help us along the way. Romney refuses to understand that, therefore he was not able to win our votes.
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    1. David Olds

      I am happy for you. You are making lots of money. I wonder if my children will be as happy when they are stuck paying your bill. So far people like yourself have racked up $112,000 in debt for my each of my two children. Since you are doing so well maybe you could begin paying them back. Attached find a contract committing you to $1200 / mo for the next 30 years. We have given you a low interest rate as you credit is quite good. I can’t say my children were generous as they really had no say in lending you this money (they are not legally able to vote) but I am sure you are grateful and would be happy to replace the money you have spent. After all, my children didn’t spend it, you did.
      “When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.”

      Between 2007 and 2010, U.S. GDP grew by only 4.26%, but the U.S. national debt soared by 61% during that same time period.

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